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Echo Spy

aka Void Stiles

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  • I live in Beacon Hills
  • I was born on May 17
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  • I am A Thousand Years Old - You Can't Kill Me!
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  • DeAngelo pleaded guilty to all of his crimes (including those he was not charged with). I think the Golden State Killer page needs some serious changes, starting with its name.

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  • Hi Echo! Long time no talk!

    I was wondering if you can see if these nav boxes that I made for Suspect Behavior and Beyond Borders can be approved.

    https://criminalminds.fandom.com/wiki/User:EvilPegasus111/SandboxG

    https://criminalminds.fandom.com/wiki/User:EvilPegasus111/SandboxG1

    While I was making these, I was looking at the original one, I saw that some episodes were ordered by production order, while some were ordered by episode release order. I was wondering if we can standerize it. I ask because I recall that a couple weeks ago, an anonymous user changed the order of "Boxed In" and "If the Shoe Fits" to release order, until Fashionable reverted it back to production order. Yet, in other places, such as the Season 13 page and on episode pages like "Innocence" and "The Tall Man", and "Final Shot" and "To Bear Witness", they are listed by release order. I was thinking that we should order them, at least for the original series, we should order them by episode release order, otherwise we would create confusion in places like "Fear and Loathing" and "Doubt", which were produced before "The Big Game" and "No Way Out II", respectively. For Beyond Borders, that I do not know how to order it, in the sandbox I had ordered it by production order. 

    Also, I made a page of locations using an interactive Google Map to map where the 3 teams traveled:

    https://criminalminds.fandom.com/wiki/User:EvilPegasus111/SandboxF. It's still a work in progress, got to rewatch some episodes to confirm locations. I wonder if something like this would be approved. If approved, then would there be a way to ensure no one vanalizes it? The code has to run in a precise way, lest the map won't run and load.

    Also, I tried to reupdate the "Unsub completes Goal", "High Body count serial killer yet not prolific", "Recurring Medical Professional", and later, "Recurring LEO"  triva on my sandbox. You can look at the first 3 here, although there are some questions I had that we could discuss later, such as does "Medical Profession" include recurring doctors, and whether "recurring LEO" should include FBI agents, like Natalie Colfax and Tia Canning. The "unsub completes goal" I added Megan Kane, Larry Feretich, William Cochran, and Elizabeth Rhodes. The "high bod count serial killer yet not prolific" I added Everett Lynch, since the Reno house bombing puts him over a dozen in 18 months.

    https://criminalminds.fandom.com/wiki/User:EvilPegasus111/SandboxC

    https://criminalminds.fandom.com/wiki/User:EvilPegasus111/SandboxE

    Also, since the show has ended, I was wondering if the one-time unsubs, we should say "Appeared In" rather than "First Appearance".

    Finally, random question, I never got the difference between "Wound Collector" vs "Injustice Collector" vs "Revenge Killer". They all sound very similar to me. I got immediately confused when I watched "Devil's Night", where Kaman Scott is a wound collector or an injustice collector? I thought he felt more like he was a "injustice collector" since he targeted the people related to him losing everything and used him losing everything as justification, rather than like Sarah Danlin, who targeted random men and used her rape as justification.

    Sorry for the long dicussion post!

    -EvilPegasus111

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    • Also, how do I create a template page for the 2 new navboxs? I can't seem to figure it out.

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    • EvilPegasus111 wrote:
      Also, how do I create a template page for the 2 new navboxs? I can't seem to figure it out.

      Never mind, figured it out.

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  • Mind explaining to me why you deleted that?

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    • Sure - ultimately I decided the comparisons to in-show criminals were too weak and thus was an unnecessary unreferenced page.

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  • how do I become an admin plus how did you edit your page with all the cool fonts?

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    • Hello this is the same guy with a new account

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    • Hi Agent Furhur,

      As the sole active bureaucrat, it is me who creates admins. As stated by our administration page:

      "Bureaucrats usually look for trusted users to do show the dedication, drive and abilities on maintaining and contributing a wikia. Most of the time, rights are earned, not simply asked and especially not demanded. Bureaucrats will determine when and who to upgrade to adminship."

      I am not looking for new admins at the moment. As for my profile page, I either download pictures made with fontmeme.com (which I did for this case) or use CSS from onlinewebfonts.com

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    • Do those two font websites contain viruses?

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    • Fontmeme does not and I find it extremely useful when designing, and I should same the same for onlinewebfonts, however I tend to surf just a little bit more carefully on the latter than the former.

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  • I will be using this thread exclusively for my reports on other user's unreferenced criminal pages, if that's fine with you. I think the old thread is a bit too crowded.

    Anyway, here's my report on DarkMattX259. I didn't bother to message him since he's been inactive for several years. And he had a list of his pages on his profile (how convenient). The following pages didn't have enough similarities:

    Robert Ben Rhoades
    Robert Black
    Yang Xinhai
    Paul Ogorzow
    Hiroshi Maeue
    John Robert Williams

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  • I waited 2 hours so I’m Litle mad that Nobody replied.

    1. Have You seen Episode Bully? Yes or No?(Rajaram12345678910 (talk) 04:45, April 20, 2020 (UTC)).

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    • Well then consider this reply on behalf of those in my community whom you messaged - I apologize that they're not at your beck and call and you apparently have such high expectations that need they immediately reply. If thy patience is as incredibly short as you say it is, then you'll find my patience to be as short as well. I extremely dislike the tone you've used with me and henceforth I order you to stop spamming my wiki with your messages. I won't refrain from welcoming you, despite thy poor first impression, as an editor. If you wish though to be part of this community I sorely recommend becoming an editor. Cease thy current behavior at once or I will resort to a block.

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    • If You saw Episode Buly? Plez just say Yes or No?(Rajaram12345678910 (talk) 05:20, April 20, 2020 (UTC)).

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    • Revising your own words, now I'm a little mad that someone replied.

      I have given you a block of three weeks - afterwards if you choose to stop spamming and wish to became an active user may you return.

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  • Hi Echo Spy, or Jack, or whatever you prefer to be called. Could I suggest some improvements that could be made to the wiki?

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    • It's Jay - Jack Morton is the name of the main character of one of my favorite Netflix shows, The Order. And shoot.

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    • Alright, so there's two things I wanted to bring up, one minor, the other not so much.

      I think that in pages for unsubs and characters, the introduction should note if the person appeared in a Criminal Minds spinoff. For example:

      [UNSUB] is a serial killer, abductor, and one-time cop killer who appeared in the [CRIMINAL MINDS SPINOFF] episode "[EPISODE NAME]".

      Also, to differentiate between characters from all three shows that are included in the wiki because of the Merge, there should be different categories for each of the shows, including a new one for characters from the main series. It could be a hefty task adding pages to it, but I believe it would help out with organization if there were the overarching category (Criminal Minds Characters) with everyone, plus three smaller ones for each show.

      What do you think?

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    • First thing will be noted. For the second, I will include spinoff agents and criminals categories "Suspect Behavior/Beyond Borders Main Character[s]" and "Suspect Behavior/Beyond Borders Criminal[s]". Any further ones, such as serial killers, terrorists, etc. will be included with our current categories.

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    • Ok. Thanks for the reply!

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  • Would like to have permission to create an Abductor/Kidnapper (please choose the name) page.

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    • I'm currently looking over our Criminal Pathology and Terminology categories - the main purpose of those was to define commonly misconstrued and misunderstood labels such as psychopaths and serial killers. However, I've noticed several pages such as Poisoner or Burglar that, I don't know, don't need further elaboration and explanation. Abductor and kidnapper is also included in the latter list, since I am sure every reader knows what an abductor and burglar is.

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    • Well, there are several types of abductors and poisoners just as there are several types of serial killers. What you're doing makes no sense at all to me.

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    • Going from the Poisoner page, the types of poisoners listed all seemed to correlate with the reason of the poisoning. Yes, there are several types of poisoners, but overall we know what a poisoner is and does and the types just specify the motivation and M.O. of the poisoner. Honestly, the types of poisoners is on the same level as what type of poison was used, and we know there are hundreds of ways people can be poisoned from.

      The same can be said with abductors - we know what an abductor is and does and their M.O./motivation is the differentiation between the types of abductors. It's on the same level as how the abductions happen, which we know there are multiple methods how a kidnapping happens.

      Point is, we cross the line into irrelevant, and I daresay 'useless' information if we go deeper into common classifications such as arsonists, poisoners and abductors. We don't want to give out information such as "parental kidnapping is a type of abduction where the parent abducts their kid and escapes", "this type of abduction uses financial motivation and gives out a ransom", etc, no matter how smartly we word the information.

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  • Hello, Echo Spy!

    J.D. here!

    LOVE the changes!

    Anyway...where's that button at the bottom of Recent Wiki/Fandom Page, where it usually says, 'See more recent change'

    https://criminalminds.fandom.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity

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  • This has probably already been discussed by others, but I was wondering if I could start moving pages over from the Beyond Borders and Suspect Behavior wikis on to this one. Reasons why:

    • The shows remain a part of Criminal Minds canon. Although no event from either show has severely impacted Criminal Minds, the shows still use the Criminal Minds name and feature characters from the OG show.
    • Other crime shows that are part of a franchise are bundled together in the same Wiki. Franchises like CSI, Law & Order, Chicago, and NCIS have each produced successful and unsuccessful spin-offs, and all wikis feature pages about characters and episodes from each TV show. NCIS used to have separate wiki's for NCIS: LA and NCIS: NO, but they have since moved over to the regular NCIS wiki, where pages related to those shows continue to get updated.
    • Neither wiki has had much traction over the last several months. This may stem to both shows having ended for several years now, but the most activity either wiki has gotten has revolved around minor edits or comments regarding certain unsubs.
    • Thanks to using similar templates, it'll be easy to move each of the pages. Since all three shows revolve around catching serial killers, all we'd need to do is just copy the information that's already on the pages and post it onto a new page. Plus, most of the categories the pages are filed under already exist on this Wiki, so we won't have to create any new categories (Except in the case of overseas serial killers).
    • The Coronavirus cancelled all my classes and I have nothing better to do. This last reason is very petty, but it's always bugged me that we've always given Suspect Behavior and Beyond Borders their own Wikis when wikis for shows like NCIS and Law & Order practically pride themselves on having information from decades worth of shows. Since I finished my finals and have nothing else to do thanks to COVID-19, I can easily take the time to move pages from both wikis on to this one.

    I look forward to hearing your response.

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    • I believe so. Why?

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    • Oh do you think you can give me an admin role for the server so I can have some sort of role on it?

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