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Bundy
Read your text on Ted Bundy. Looking great! By the way, according to Evil Beyond Belief, a 2009 book about serial killers, Bundy would, in addition to his fake arm cast ruse, sometimes pose as a fireman or even a cop. He also did burglaries and would bludgeon and then rape his victims in their sleep. By the way, congratulations on 4000+ edits! --Jpx400 12:01, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks :) I did hear about the cop/fireman thing. Bundy was a very effective "hunter", having much more confidence than the average killer. He was probably the only serial killer ever that was actually able to use his looks to his advantage, although Dahmer was also considered attractive to his victims. I watched the movie the other day and was inspired to write about him in my own words (with a little paraphrasing from wikipedia). It should be a good article when it's finished. -

New Wikia Look
You're right, it's awful. Based on what I've been reading, they seem too detemined to make the change and that's not good news as they are saying they are not going to support monaco.css for long. What will we do then? :(


 * We'll have to learn the way the new system works, and try to translate the look to the new software somehow. I'm sure there is a way to keep the basic feel of the wiki with the new *.css (if there is one). -


 * I've been checking our wiki with the new look and some things look good, but others just don't work, for starters that the page proportion has changed and the part for the actual content has gotten its width reduced to 660px. Even worst is what it does to the content of the current left hand list of contents, I just see the first four :(. And everything is BLUE *argh* and the new *cool* theme designer is crap.
 * PD. From the central: You'll be able to switch back and forth between the two skins until November 3rd. At that time Monaco will be removed as a skin option.
 * PD2. From an angry user: Guys, everyone copy this coding into their personal /wikia.css before it's too late:
 * http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/User%3AJoeyaa%2Fwikia.css
 * It makes Oasis more bearable. (From me: Not sure what to do if we want to make certain changes to the others themes)
 * I'm NOT a happy camper


 * What exactly does this code do? If it only affects individual users, it's pretty useless. I've always hated the fact that users can have their own skin. It kind of defeats the purpose having a wiki theme to begin with. -


 * Not too sure, but as it states just affects one of the themes of the new wikia.css, the all-blue one, useless for us. Use the link (copy/paste) and you'll get to a user page where the code is and you'll maybe be able to compare after changing to the new look of the wiki. I think it tames the blues.
 * I've just found this under my username: http://community.wikia.com/index.php?title=User:Mvpl/global.css&action=edit&preload=Template:Airhogs777/personalCSS, please check it and tell me what is (code is not my forte)


 * It's your "preferences". That's all. -

Wiki Logo
It seems you're right, so don't be shy and do the honors! ;) ... and sorry not to help, but I've seen them so many times, I don't know which one I prefer...
 * And after playing a bit with the new "wiki look", I've discovered that neither is going to be of any use to us, as the new size for the logos is 250x65px. I'm feeling murderous!
 * As no2 I don't remember what I did, try the one you reduced so we can see how it works and I'll try to adjust it to the new size once I've calmed down :(. Good news is that we would be able to use the tiled background picture and change the color scheme to erase blues and others colors that clash with ours.

Bah! Stupid Wikia. I didn't really do anything to the one you made, Photoshop just has a batter resize filter than GIMP. You should try to find a copy of it. Maybe an older version is available somewhere for less money. This new look thing is pissing me off >:( -
 * As I've had time to calm down, I've concluded we can make several things work maybe even better than now (the screen seems less crowded?). I've customized the new look for a preview in white, black and red, and the effect is really good, specially if we get bold and use a black page with white font (it's a dark show, so why not!). And one of my problems with the new look (the shortcuts of the left hand bar) is seemingly going to be addressed, so admins can modify the content. Not everything is so bad, just the added work for us and probably a handful of thing we're not yet aware of :p
 * Photoshop can wait, I don't use those programs so much; and to resize the new logo, I've got you :D
 * Update: I've made some customization, including a logo, to our wiki on the new-look-side-of-the-world; take a look, rant and rave, and opine?

You're right, my main problem is that they have overdone the "squishing" part, but just for the content, the right hand bar is just as wide as it was, and now visually it seems even wider. And I did the logo (look the Update bit :p), another thing I hate is its reduced size. Everything else, I can live with, as it's just a matter of getting used to find things in different places ;)

The problem is the page content is at a set width now, where as before, it was adaptive, depending on your screen resolution. I don't know why they changed that. -

I read the explanation you got when you asked, and the only think that came to my mind is a Spanish expression "Ir hacia atrás, como los cangrejos", 'cause to think now to accomodate the smaller screens disregarding the new ones, when everybody and their dog are upgrading to widescreen... *headshake*

*facepalm* :) -

Top Menus
Hi Sec. You can customize the new menus at MediaWiki:Wiki-navigation. There should be 4 dropdown menus of up to 7 items each that you can fill in. There's a help page for that here. It looks like when they copied your old menus over, you had the first few entries as single links and not directories, so it is a bit unusual for your wiki at the moment. When the dropdown menus are working you should also see a link to edit them at the bottom of each menu. I recommend using one of them to contain any community/wiki type links that you want and put content in the rest, but that is up to you. Any special page type tools that you used to link there can also be put in your My tools menu on the bottom menu bar.

In terms of the page width, I'm afraid it is fixed and cannot be altered for the wiki as a whole. It was chosen to allow all ads to be taken out of the content space, and to still have everything fit onto a 1024px wide screen. With the old screen, pages were designed at one width and without ads by a user, and then frequently looked horrible for a different user who maybe saw the ads, or had a much smaller or much larger screen. This way, everybody sees the same page.

If you would like to view the wiki yourself with a wider content area you can create a personal Wikia.css for yourself that forces it to be wider; but be aware that your readers will not see the same width and you shouldn't design super-wide tables and things like that. Let me know if you have any further questions. -- Wendy (talk ) 21:40, October 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * No problem -- I'm glad I could help! And I'm glad you are getting used to the new skin. I think some things are actually handier myself (I love the "My tools" menu). At anyrate, if you want custom text colors you are welcome to add that to the sitewide Wikia.css. I know some people really like having followed links a different color (for example) which theme designer doesn't do, but you can set it yourself. And Wikia does collect statistics on the screen resolution of its visitors; right now there are still enough using 1024 that it was chosen as the width, but if that changes I'm sure they will reassess. -- Wendy (talk ) 23:45, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

CM Music
As music is definetly not my speciality, but I'm pretty sure is yours, look at this piece and maybe you'll be inspired to write something about it ;)

Hmmmm. That might make an interesting article. I'm not sure how to go about it, though. -


 * I cannot see this video (I'm in the wrong zone), but maybe it could help?

Ass???????????????
What on earth are you talking about? Granted that I like the idea of separate wikis for both shows, with links between them, but I hate even more to think that I may have forced you to do something that you dislike. I wanted for us to understand each other point of view in this matter, not to force your hand. It's difficult for me to translate into English what I really want to say with the right tone, moreso when there is a lively debate; if I've hurt your feelings or if you have felt I was being crash/harsh or just was out of place, please accept my apologies. It was never my intention, but I know very well that often that's not enough. Sorry!

Not necessary. I just realized it might actually be fun to build another wiki. Since the two shows will probably have different tones, they can have different themes, feel, etc. You weren't being harsh or anything. You were just arguing with me. That's why I made you an admin in the first place; arguing shows that you care about the wiki. -


 * Thank you! I rely a lot on people facial expressions while debating to not go too far and I miss it here :)
 * I'm not going to promise to do much in the new wiki, I've already explained why, but when you have the templates ready, I'd like to crate (copy/paste) there Whitaker bio 'cause it was a pain in the... (yes, there :D) to put it together and it would be good to know that it's useful for more than a guest cast/one timer bio ;)
 * OK. I'm working on transferring them now. -
 * OK. I'm working on transferring them now. -

Re: CSI Adminship
Exactly what does being an admin for a wiki mean? --Jpx400 07:55, November 1, 2010 (UTC)

Admins can edit protected pages, can mark pages as protected, rollback vandalism with one click, block vandals, unblock others, edit certain pages that regular users can't, can make site-wide announcements, wikia helpers listen to you more often, stuff like that. I still haven't heard back from Kanamekun, though. -

Wiki Design
I've changed the white background for something a little less "white" as it was soooooo white it was killing me :D

And I've a request for you. I like the new design for the main page "Welcome" and "Links" titles, but the background you have used clash with the one used on the logo (yours is blurry and doen't match the background pictures). Two options if you agree: I send you the correct design and you make the final pictures, or you send me the .psd file and I change said background (I cannot remake the wording and I like it too much to think of using other)

Go ahead and send them. I blurred the background to try to create a 3D effect. It didn't work out very well :) I didn't notice the color change in the theme. It doesn't look much different. -


 * Be a good boy and check this thief sandbox ;)
 * I notcied that earlier. Nice. Can you make the red a little darker? Good score, though. I do it, too :) -
 * Done. If you want to change it, now it's #640D02, and you'll be able to find it at Template:Main quote. And BTW, I've create this one and two others, Template:Quote and Template:Main quote/doc. I think I've labeled them right, but check them as I'm not totally sure


 * For the Garcia's Files, I've seen you have already asked to somebody that maybe has the answer, so Good Thinking! If I come up with something like it, be sure I'll steal it :D
 * The Quotes, I'd like to see them between the Welcome box and the side by side ones. It's not so wide, and could serve as a breathing space. And if you can put it there (it's just the content of my sandbox), I'll thank you profusely, as I don't know what I'm doing and every time I've tried I've messed everything else.
 * Is there any way to separate a little said boxes to take away the cluttered feeling? Done!
 * One more thing!! Could we label every box like the "CRIMINAL MINDS BOOKEND QUOTES" one and forget about the images like the "Welcome" one? I mean, if only the logo is different, and everything else is less dramatic, it'd shine more and maybe the whole would get a more elegant look ... Done!


 * Browsing other wikis I've found some that have the gallery box with different background and border colors, and as the blue ones we have got here clash horribly with the wiki scheme I'd love to change that. Any ideas?


 * I have no clue. What wiki has a different color and background? I'll try to find the code and snatch it. -


 * It was the Tron Wiki. Our background is OK (It's a soft gray, I've misjudged), but if we could change the blue border for a darker shade of gray...
 * Can you tell me where can I find the Suspect bridge photo?
 * I need your input. I've nearly got the code as I want it, but there is a problem that I cannot solve. If you copy the code from my sandbox, past it in the main page and preview would be easy for you to understand than if I try to explain. Please!?

random page in category
Hi. Try using a link to Special:Randomincategory/Criminals (replace Criminals with whatever category you want). I'm not sure how you can turn it into a button, but you can make it a link at least. -- Wendy (talk ) 01:43, November 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Very nice! -- Wendy (talk ) 03:43, November 4, 2010 (UTC)

The picture of you and your cat
That cat of yours is absolutely awesome. Linktriforce007 17:44, November 4, 2010 (UTC)

Episode 12
Episode 12 title has been released today... and it's a Spanish title that, as it could be expected, everybody it's going to write wrong. I've added it to the episode list for the season as it has been reported: Corazon, but as you well know it should be written: Corazón... Don't know what to do (know what I want to do), let it be as it's or change it to the proper spelling. Help!?

PS. I've finally got the proper code for the main page columns!! Wanna a prize for most stubborn girl!! :D

Name it Corazón and create a redirect page called Corazon. What do you mean proper code? The two columns are OK for now. If you mess with the width of the left box, it will screw up it's length and the two won't line up.... -


 * Thanks for the idea!!!
 * Man of little faith!!! I've tried the new code in several places of the main page and it works wonderfully :p But first I've got another idea based on your Random Criminal box and once I've got that worked out I'll show everything to you to get your seal of approval ;)
 * Alrighty! :) -
 * Alrighty! :) -

Minor Criminals
I've been thinking about putting together a list of minor criminals, sorted chronologically by episode, mentioned in Criminal Minds, the ones whose backgrounds around elaborated upon enough to make full articles about them. Examples include: Thoughts? --Jpx400 14:55, November 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * The Boise Child Killer (Unfinished Business)
 * The Boys in Iowa (A Real Rain)
 * Thomas Payne (Outfoxed)
 * A child serial killer mentioned in Derailed (I don't remember his name)
 * The family annihalator and the serial drowner mentioned in Memoriam

Sounds good. I was also wondering if the guys in Middle Man were going to be written separately or as a single killing team. -

Maybe like The Soul Mates? Individual articles for all three, one article to describe their group behavior? Especially since the leader of the pack killed all the victims and the "lieutenant" killed the third member. The group article can be called "The Cornfield Killers". --Jpx400 02:13, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

Is that what they were called in the episode? I couldn't really hear anything, my little nephew was over and running around screaming like a crazy person. -

I don't remember them having a nickname mentioned anywhere... I was just going to suggest Michael's Group (just to be consistent with the Turner's Group article) or "The Brotherhood" (due to Michael's "there's only one way out the brotherhood" line, plus I think he called Chris and/or Scott "brother" once or twice). Anyway, hope you don't mind me butting in. -- Lord Crayak 02:57, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

I like the idea of "Brotherhood" being in their name. What do you think Jpx? Maybe use the name of the town, too. Like the "Smallville Brotherhood", replacing Smallville with whatever the town's name was, obviously. Or "Children of the Corn". Just kidding. We could get sued for that. :) -

Yeah, "Brotherhood" is a good name. Maybe "Kosina's Brotherhood" after the leader, but that sounds a bit like a cult. How does "The Johnson County Brotherhood" (after the location where the bodies were found) sound? --Jpx400 12:23, November 8, 2010 (UTC)

Works for me. -

Help!!!
Need help with three little things, two are wiki related:


 * I've ready all the code needed to revamp the main page and it works very, very well :D, but one of the Random boxes it's dedicated to the main characters, present and former, but they articles are in different categories and I would need for them to be browsed by the link. Any helpful idea about how to do it?
 * I'll love to know if the season 5 DVD box has any "clever" phrasing on its backcover (kind of "To catch a criminal you have to think like one"). They are not going to be released over here for months and I've been unable to find it using Internet, and I'm lacking one catching line for a random box. Could you get your hands on one, check it and copy whatever they have come up for me?

And... I don't know how to explain the third one, so please Check.My.Talk.Page O_O


 * Not sure about that. Maybe Wendy can help


 * I'll check at Walmart, or maybe Lord Crayak owns it.


 * I'm confused, and not really sure what this guy wants.....

-


 * Thank you, I'll ask her :)
 * Thank you and sorry for the trouble!
 * Maybe he's as wiki illiterate as he claims, or maybe he thinks one of us has any relation whatsover with the production/network/whatever and it's looking for jobs for the actor? Who knows! ;)

I wish we did. I would cast myself in the show. Maybe as Foyet's avenging little foster brother; Steve Foyet, a.k.a. The Sickle. haha -


 * XDDDDDDDDD
 * I have an idea for the code. Maybe use both categories and separate them with "/". Let's try it.
 * Special:Randomincategory/Main Characters/Minor Characters -
 * Special:Randomincategory/Main Characters/Minor Characters -
 * Special:Randomincategory/Main Characters/Minor Characters -

Nope, doesn't work. Nevermind. -
 * Don't worry. I've asked Wendy, so if it's viable she can tell :)
 * Check the code I've posted in the Sandbox (copy/paste in the main page and preview) Please, pretty please!!!
 * It seems to work, but it's kind of big. I like the pictures, too, but putting them in boxes that link to categories they're not in may be confusing...Not to mention, it kind of negates all the work I put into "Garcia's Box". >:( -
 * It seems to work, but it's kind of big. I like the pictures, too, but putting them in boxes that link to categories they're not in may be confusing...Not to mention, it kind of negates all the work I put into "Garcia's Box". >:( -


 * Now that we know the code works, that is, that everything remains where it's placed, we can play a bit with it :D
 * About the big part: I can resize those boxes and put them in just two lines, so to reduce the area they occupy.
 * About the confusing part: I labeled them just for that reason, hoping people are not so dense to get confused. Am I being too hopeful?
 * About Garcia's box: It worked very well for Garcia, but when I thougth to make more for the other categories, nothing did. I'm sure she works 'cause she has very personal and defined traits, but that didn't seem applicable to the others. With that in mind I took what I could from your design and used things already used by the production company, as I wanted to make up nothing. If you come up with a good way to do what I couldn't, then we can compare and decide which one we like better ;)


 * Butting in again, buuuut, here's the Season Five box set tagline - "What they do will blow you away. How they do it will blow your mind." -- Lord Crayak 19:10, November 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow. That sounds kinda gay. Pardon the expression. -
 * Wow. That sounds kinda gay. Pardon the expression. -

Curiosity
Browsing other wikis, looking for new ideas to steal actually :D, I've found this one that's managed to expand the width of its pages. If we'd learn how to do it, would it be a good idea?

They're an independent website, not affiliated with wikia, and can therefore modify the MediaWiki software as they see fit. The wikia logo that appears there is due to them copying and pasting the common.css directly, instead of creating their own. It is, however, it's own domain and can use its own skin. -


 * Aaaah... Thanks!!
 * Talking about other wikis looks, I'm pretty sure the new main page we have concocted is different from almost every other one out there, even if can be improved. Would it be alright with you if I make the change? If/when we come up with any improvement, we can do it anyway...
 * To be honest, I don't really like all the boxes. The BUA database with garcia's picture was meant a fun little thing to place on the page. As far as using her picture on it, she's the BAU's technical analyst, so she's the one you go to for info on anyone. None of the other characters have anything to do with the databases and can't believably be associated with any random page boxes. Show me what you got, though. -
 * To be honest, I don't really like all the boxes. The BUA database with garcia's picture was meant a fun little thing to place on the page. As far as using her picture on it, she's the BAU's technical analyst, so she's the one you go to for info on anyone. None of the other characters have anything to do with the databases and can't believably be associated with any random page boxes. Show me what you got, though. -


 * Everything is in the sandobox. If you really dislike the last table with the boxes, I can put everything else now and from there we can decide what to do with the randomcategory box/es, or can put everything and take that table away once we have a chance to see its effect on the page, no problem. Maybe a combination of Garcia's box and a single gallery could work instead? I'm sure we can agree in something good looking ;)
 * PS. I'm nearly done putting the quotes on the Main quote template, so that feature will work as it should starting tonight
 * The first two boxes looked better the other way around. They're too far apart now. And there's too many empty spaces. Try removing the blank spaces and start and end comment lines. They don't don't need to there and are just wasting space. Not to mention, explaining the code itself isn't necessary, as you and I are the only ones who can edit the main page, anyway.
 * The first two boxes looked better the other way around. They're too far apart now. And there's too many empty spaces. Try removing the blank spaces and start and end comment lines. They don't don't need to there and are just wasting space. Not to mention, explaining the code itself isn't necessary, as you and I are the only ones who can edit the main page, anyway.


 * I'm going to reduce the blank spaces; I don't like the tables glued together, but the spaces can very well be smaller
 * Errrrr... the start and end comment lines were for me, a way to keep my sanity (an eyes) or what passes for it :)
 * I changed the two column order 'cause the Wiki Link on the right looks a lot like the right hand column of doom from the other pages and liked to see the logo in the middle of the page, but if you prefer the other order, I'll change it, no problem
 * What I do with the last table, the boxes??

Good question. I'm sure there's a place for it somewhere.

Episode Score
What was that? :D

What was what? -


 * All of those external links in the epi page you have deleted. I've gone there looking for the bookend quotes for the quotes template and I couldn't believe what I was watching... It was kind of funny :)
 * Haha. I was having an edit war with myself. For some reason, when I kept trying to copy Garcia's quote from the CBS website and paste it into the episode page, It would paste the ENTIRE page. I kept trying to undo it, but it wouldn't save because someone else was editing the page at the same time. So I finally blocked the page and fixed everything. It was confusing, and one of those WTF!? moments. I'm OK now :D -
 * Consolation prize: you've given me a good laugh seeing that demented spree of links ;)
 * BTW, next time try to copy/paste first on a word editor, or get it from criminalmindsfanatic.blogspot.com; in both cases it will be easier, and as accurate.

Color Scheme
I've been experimenting to try and change the color scheme of the galleries, and I've disovered that their border depends on the links color and their background is just a darker or lighter shade of the pages background.

That said, I don't like any combination that I get, as the links need to be different from the normal text. The blue border, or green or anything of that sort clash with the rest and with the links the color they are currently, which I like very much, the border turns "pink" :(.

Soooo, until we can come up with something better that we both like, I'm going to upload the random boxes with a twist. I didn't specially like the first set of pictures I uploaded for them, they were too red and garish, so I've made a new version using the FBI seal from the J. Edgar Hoover building facade and I'm pretty sure those black bands that went with them aren't going to survive my tender mercies :D

Making the links red makes it look like an unwritten page, which can be confusing. -


 * I did think that too, but we are in the minority here; I've seen links in green, red, yellow, orange... :) But if you prefer the blue ones, that's good enough for me.
 * Once the wiki servers take notice of the changes I've made to the pics, tell me your opinion please

CSI wiki
I've been thinking that if I cannot beat that dreadful ad, I can revamp the main page working around it.

That said, don't fret!! I'm going to upload nothing. I'll prepare my pics and code and email everything to you so you can decide, and put your touch to the whole thing if you like it enough.

And it was going to be a surprise, but as I watch those shows when they air over here, without going out of my way to get the epis, I need your help: the shows titles as they are now in the wiki are actual? I've the font, but as I'm going to do them from scratch, I'd prefer for that detail to be accurate :)

Haha. I think the best thing to do would be to make another big picture that's the same height as the ad and however wide the blank space is, and move it up there. That way the photo and the ad are side by side. I don't know what's up with that ad anyway. I've never seen another wiki with an ad in that same spot. -


 * Oh, Mister! Nearly every wiki has that ad, as most use the two column design. This wiki is an exception, and I have a theory: your pic, that was up before the change of skin and is big and inside a table and had nothing over it, added up to the fact that traffic over here is more scarce than over CSI.
 * About making a big pic, that was my backup plan. The one I'm working on is a little bit different as I prefer not to be like everybody else if I can help it :)


 * Sooooooo... answer my question, please!!
 * Hold off. Uberfuzzy is working on it. -
 * Hold off. Uberfuzzy is working on it. -


 * Ouch! I already have the pics done and I like them very much :(
 * Awwww. Send them to me :D -
 * Keep in mind, it was agreed with the other admin that those six characters have to be in the photo. -
 * Keep in mind, it was agreed with the other admin that those six characters have to be in the photo. -


 * On their way!! And the characters are there, including the cities that are as important IMO :D

Somebody called Kanamekun has given permission to Romcombo to mess with the main page, adding unnecessary things (Main page talk page). Help!!!

I'm bitching at Kanamekun, don't worry. -
 * I've seen. Thanks! ;)

Pics and talk pages
Where is your cat??? I loved that pic :( BTW, you have the same problem here that I had in mine :D
 * I think this one will do very well ;)
 * Badge_Seal.jpg

Helping hand!
I think I've found the best place to get help/search code to solve any problem we encounter... and it's another wiki, and I think we should keep the link in a safe place :D

HTML & CSS Wiki

Take a look. Maybe there we can find the trick needed to solve the CSI text-color trouble...

Cool. Nice theme, too -

More changes
I just noticed that some things about the layout have been changed. Now the Recent Wiki Activity and search bar are on the left. It's not just on this wiki, it's the same on the CSI and Dexter wikis. Thoughts? --Jpx400 05:17, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

They're still on the right for me. At least here anyway. I just checked the CSI wiki and it's fine (except for the front page, which I just fixed). I don't know what's going on. -

I don't know what happened, but everything's back to normal here. --Jpx400 12:18, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Are you...sure it really happened, Jonathan? :) -

Re: Loooooong
I'm not sure, but I kinda hope so. Having the daughter of a serial killer on an FBI team sounds pretty promising. By the way, what was that "hint hint" about? --Jpx400 17:17, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

How do I archive it? --Jpx400 06:56, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Login
This time, and only this time, I noticed but it was soooooo late that I couldn't find the energy to be bothered ;)

BTW, I'm starting to get angry with our "Wikia Contributor". Most of their edits are fairly good, but it's easy to create an account and I don't like one bit to have somebody messing around so much without being able to interact with them.

Merry Christmas!


 * I hear ya. It's starting to piss me off too. There's no way to communicate with him or her either. Time to block that IP address. -


 * Who has been the one to forget to login now!?? :D :D :D
 * And blocked for 3 days. If they don't create an account, then it'll be permanent!
 * And blocked for 3 days. If they don't create an account, then it'll be permanent!

Welcome...
...stranger! :p

Criminal Accomplices
Hi, sorry to bother you but something you changed doesn't make sense to me and I was wondering if you could help me out here. Can you please explain why Coleman is in between Slessman and Turner when, in my opinion, he belongs in between Chapman and Davin. Please write back soon. Hito7187199 21:27, March 6, 2011 (UTC)